Another layer of security for your Dropbox account

Posted by Dan Wheeler on August 27, 2012

Hi everyone! A few weeks ago, we discussed a number of steps we’re taking to add an extra layer of security for Dropbox users. Today we’d like to announce the launch of two-step verification, a feature that will enhance the security of your Dropbox by requiring two levels of authentication: your password, and a security code that will either be texted to your mobile phone or generated by a mobile authenticator app (available for iOS, Android, Blackberry and Windows Phone 7).

Turning on two-step verification is simple: go to the new Security tab in your Dropbox account settings and enable two-step verification in the “Account sign in” section.



From there, just follow the steps to set up two-step verification. Detailed setup instructions are also available in our Help Center. On your desktop or mobile devices, you’ll only need the code the first time you sign in to Dropbox. On the web, you can also select the option to “Trust this computer” and you won’t need to re-enter a code again.

Two-step verification is one of several steps that we’re taking to enhance the security of your Dropbox. We’ve also created a way for you to view all active logins to your account on the Security tab, and we’re working on automated mechanisms to identify suspicious activity. If you have any questions about two-step verification or would like help getting started, please visit our help center or contact us anytime at support+security@dropbox.com.

493 Comments to Another layer of security for your Dropbox account

Jon Colverson
August 27, 2012

I’d love to have an option to require two-step authentication before allowing anything to be permanently deleted. That would limit the damage that a malicious person or malicious code could do if they have access to my already authenticated machine.

WFA67
August 27, 2012

For the time being, the 1Password folks advise against enabling this two-step verification option.

Pawel Glaz
August 27, 2012

That is wonderful BUT why do you force us to identify the code instance in Google Authenticator by revealing not only the purpose of the code (“Dropbox:”) but also the login (e-mail address)? Why not let us choose the label of the code so we can come up with something more random – I am aware that it is not military-grade protection should the phone get lost or stolen (they still need the password) but I think it is way too obvious at the moment.

Helder
August 27, 2012

BIG DROPBOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan Pearl
August 27, 2012

Hey Pawel,

You can rename it in the app by long-pressing the account in Google Authenticator, or if you enter the secret by hand instead of scanning the code then you can select your own name for it to start with.

Peter Bozsoki
August 27, 2012

Why do they do? I would like to understand, but couldn’t find anything relevant with Google…

Ryan Hughes
August 27, 2012

Great job Dropbox. Thank you for listening to your customers!

Bernd
August 27, 2012

I have just tested my (java based) Soft Token with the Dropbox Two-step verification. And since Dropbox is based on HOTP with the same parameters like Amazon MFA or Google 2-Step it also works with  et-OTP. See the description here: https://github.com/ecki/et-otp/wiki/Setting%20up%20Dropbox%20MFA

et-OTP is an Open Source Java application which runs in Java SE (Swing).

dr_cake
August 27, 2012

 they advise against it because they’re not involved here… ;)

Agdfgdfgdf
August 27, 2012

Thanks for implementing this long overdue feature.

KeePass
August 27, 2012

When I try to use Google Authenticator, I get the error “Invalid code”. Please help find a solution. Authorization through SMS works fine.

WoW
August 27, 2012

No free space for setting it up? :P

Babylon78
August 27, 2012

First off! WAY TO GO Dropbox for listening to your users!

I have 2 items to report:
1- It seems like after enabling 2FA, all my already connected apps are STILL connected. I would assume, as inconvenient as this may be to do the initial switch, that the connected apps with the original password, should require an Application Specific password to function?

2- Though the Google Auth app works pretty well while logging on to the Dropbox website, I couldn’t figure out a way to re-connect an app while 2FA is enabled.
i.e: I unlinked Social Cam from Dropbox, and tried relinking it, but no password can be accepted this time. I’m assuming this is a function of the application supporting Dropbox’s 2FA?  In which case, is it safe to assume that your recommendation would be not to use 2FA if we have many linked apps, until most applications release an update that supports 2FA?

Again, thanks for your hard work on this. It’s invaluable feature!

howardweaver
August 27, 2012

1Password *is* involved. Their app has to talk with Dropbox to keep my 1Password apps synced across devices.

Strauss Dirk
August 27, 2012

Check that your smartphone’s date and time is correct. I had to set my iPhone time to update automatically via the Internet. After doing this, the codes generated by the Authenticator app worked.

alienkid10
August 27, 2012

 can I use without a phone? I don’t have a cell phone.

Nauman Afzal
August 27, 2012

Thanks a lot Dropbox. You did it again.

Rahul
August 27, 2012

You have one again prove that you are the best

Andy Yasger
August 27, 2012

Do we get a bonus (like Camera Uploads) for beta-testing it? Please? I went through a lot of hassle to set it up and install the latest testing build.

kentchow75
August 27, 2012

That’s awesome guys!

Jarzka
August 27, 2012

If you have ever used Steam, there is a protection layer called Steam Guard. Everytime you sign to your account from a new device, you have to enter the activation code which is sent to your email address. And after that when you sign to your account from the same device, Steam does not ask you the verification code again.

I think this kind of protection is better than asking the verification code every time.

Ryan Pearl
August 27, 2012

Hey Jarzka,

This is what our 2-step verification solution does too :) You verify web sessions unless you decide to trust them, and you verify new devices when they are linked, not every time you sign in.

Curtis Wyffels
August 27, 2012

You can rename the label, hit the edit button and change it! Hope that helps :)

Viljo Viitanen
August 27, 2012

Hopefully Dropbox support staff have been properly trained so that a hacker just cannot social engineer two-step authentication off.

Thinhtd
August 27, 2012

Not work with Vietnam?
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Zaphod_42
August 27, 2012

More security is good, But the need of two channels is a violation of my privacy, I don’t want Web Services to know my mobile phone number. Web Services have nothing to do with telephony, that is important for my security.

veronica
August 28, 2012

It would be nice to have 2-step authentication that didn’t rely on cellphones. If I want to use this I’ll have to get up from my computer and walk about 100 metres from the house, rain or shine, in order to get a phone signal. Not going to happen.

Tim
August 28, 2012

Who exactly am I giving my mobile number to? Dropbox? Or some third party who promise not to use it; until they’re taken over by Microsoft, say, who will then be able to tie my mobile up to my hotmail account – something I’ve been resisting for about two years.

Antti Pitkänen
August 28, 2012

Only one emergency code? why there isn’t ten or so backup codes like in google two-step verification?

Nicola Efflandrin
August 28, 2012

Another great add for the security! Great work, keep it going!

martenia
August 28, 2012

Invalid code. Check the clock on your phone: it must be accurate to the minute. I’m also getting this message. I’ve set my time to automatic on my phone as some suggested earlier but it did not work. What else can I do? Thanks!

Jans
August 28, 2012

Does that work with the sync-options of f.e. 1Password?

Jans
August 28, 2012

Does that work with the sync-options of f.e. 1Password? 

mhc2011
August 28, 2012

Have you looked at microcells for your home? They provide a local cell signal linked into your internet connection, and some cell providers will provide them at no charge if you plead your case (unusable cell coverage at home).

Tobi
August 28, 2012

Can we use Google Authenticator AND SMS? Just in case I don’t have my primary phone available I’d like to have a backup. Also 10 codes to be printed like with Google would work

Oneloop1984
August 28, 2012

I have a question. Before implementing a 2-step security system, why not doing first something much simpler: the option of getting rid of auto-login. When I logout of my computer, I don’t want Dropbox to auto-login next time I turn it on. Imagine that my computer is stolen: I don’t want someone to be able to delete things from my online Dropbox folder. Just make auto-login optional.

Grumpy Git
August 28, 2012

I don’t have a “smart” phone, but I do have a real Amazon MFA keyfob – is there any way that I could use that?

Jan
August 28, 2012

The phone app doesn’t need to be connected to anything as far as I know.

Marcus Ong
August 28, 2012

haha I see what you mean :)
Nice one

Marcus Ong
August 28, 2012

Well, perhaps there can be an email option for the verification (unless you actually use the same pw for email and Dropbox, in which you are screwed)

KeePass
August 28, 2012

Thank you. I’ll try your option.

martenia
August 28, 2012

That didn’t work for me :( 

Lizbeth
August 28, 2012

quisiera saber si el codigo de autentificacion llega a blackberrys en venezuela. Gracias 

Jimmy Beans
August 28, 2012

It is optional… you have to check “REMEMBER ME” for it to auto-log you in.

Nishok
August 28, 2012

Even if auto login was disabled, your files would still be on that PC because they are already synchronized and downloaded to that PC.

kkaplan
August 28, 2012

 My files are in a TrueCrypt archive, so they aren’t readily available – but an option to not autosync would be nice as well.

Jason Newton
August 28, 2012

Great work. Thanks again, Dropbox.

Stephen Manczyk
August 28, 2012

Great job!!!  You guys are fantastic!!!!!! Thank you!

Pawel Glaz
August 28, 2012

Thanks! Didn’t know that :)

Pawel Glaz
August 28, 2012

It does help, thanks ;)

Roger Sievers
August 28, 2012

nice

Martin Rutkowski
August 28, 2012

why not Verisign VIP Access too? (best compatibility)

Bruceahz
August 28, 2012

The issue was mucking with the on-line folder. If the computer is taken and turned on, dropbox will connect you to your on-line folders to sync. And then anything can be added or deleted from the on-line folders… which changes are synced with all other computers.

PNW Tom
August 28, 2012

Well, then, if you’re that worried, don’t sign up for 2 factor. Your choice. 

How Safe?
August 28, 2012

Please tell me what prevents Dropbox employees from viewing my stuff beyond policy and limited access to keys

blutz
August 29, 2012

Right: it’s a time-based algorithm so as long as the smartphone is on and has the correct time you can login. That’s supposing you have a smartphone (or iPod touch).

blutz
August 29, 2012

You can use any device that has one of the listed OS’s (iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry, Linux/Unix, OS X) even without a network connection.

Zac
August 29, 2012

It’s an awesome option to secure our dropbox account

alienkid10
August 29, 2012

How? How can I use it on Windows? Know if there is a Nook app for auth like this too?

Vladimir
August 29, 2012

Can you add two phone numbers, one as primary and another one as backup phone number. That google does. Once I traveling to other country I use other phone number, so I can use both.

I like that Google idea to have two phones, please make the same!!!
and I will never go to the alternatives (Google Drive, skydrive and  some other competitions)

Radhika
August 29, 2012

Dropbox is my favorite among google drive and sandox…

Q1006662
August 29, 2012

You’re just not interesting enough

blutz
August 29, 2012

If your nook is android-based you can root it and install the android authentication app (I don’t know much about nooks). 

As for windows, it’s definitely possible (http://rubli.info/t-blog/2011/09/03/generating-oath-otps-on-windows-with-oathtool/) but requires quite a bit of setup (install the Linux terminal emulator Cygwin then actually installing oathtool and setting it up to work with DropBox). If you don’t have a text-enabled phone or smartphone, I’d recommend not making this your only authentication method…

alienkid10
August 29, 2012

 it’s Android based, but I’m not going to root it. So I guess the answer is that this is unusable for me. Ah well, the one I REALLY need it for is Google, but I’ve got the same problem there.

mattozan
August 29, 2012

Plus, you have put all of your uninteresting information into a TrueCrypt container, right? Not even nefarious Dropbox employees can penetrate that level of tinfoil.

Jeanie Petz
August 30, 2012

Very useful addition.

Jessie
August 30, 2012

Do I need to re-generate a code everytime I try to log in or is it just a one time deal?

jaixx
August 31, 2012

the idea of a backup code which i have to store somewhere and may not lose, is absolutely inconvenient.
this not only undermines the security behind two-step-verfication. it is also impractical. where shall i store the code? what if i lose it?

phildar
August 31, 2012

Test

Lazza
September 1, 2012

 You can just ask Dropbox to send you an OTP via SMS, assuming you have a phone.

Lazza
September 1, 2012

 Well, that’s not a huge damage. You can just use the web gui to revert that. The problem is that at the point your laptop is stolen, if you don’t use serious encryption systems like the encrypted home on Linux, your data is already available to the thief.

Lazza
September 1, 2012

 If your phone supports it (e.g. a rooted Android phone) install an NTP synchronization app (e.g. ClockSync). That should sync it about up to the millisecond.

Lazza
September 1, 2012

 Nobody is forcing you to set it up. If you want a secure way to prove Dropbox it’s really you, you have to provide them with some verification method.

Régis
September 1, 2012

It does not undermine the security since the main password is still required. But I agree it would be more convenient to send a temporary code by SMS, for instance. Anyway, this is odd-topic since it is managed by Google and not Dropbox. 

Régis
September 1, 2012

The two step authentication is required when you log in from un unknown device, or if you have explicitly logged out.

Régis
September 1, 2012

And you don’t give your phone number when you install the smartphone app.

David Blanco
September 1, 2012

I would
like to mirror folders with names different to dropbox, I would like to mirror more
than one folder. I would like to mirror any folder with any name in any place
in any of the discs in my computer. I love security but I love comfort too

Klsdjf
September 2, 2012

  Sign up for free! http://db.tt/bkHN8Tpy and get extra 500MB

CBN
September 2, 2012

Some of you must be using a different DropBox company to me. Listen to their customers? When is DROPBOX going to address the second-most voted item in VoteBox that has been “in the pipeline” for 3 years? When are they even going to read VoteBox?

Andrew Wells Douglass
September 2, 2012

So how many security faikures has Dropbox had? How many do they get before they are history? This is really quite sad. Accounts should be encrypted for the user’s eyes only, period.

Andrew Wells Douglass
September 2, 2012

So how many egregious security failures has Dropbox had? How many do they get before they are history? This is really quite sad. Accounts should be encrypted for the user’s eyes only, period. I’m bummed: I liked Dropbox a lot.

Guest
September 2, 2012
Lazza
September 3, 2012

Wait, what?
Then how do you expect to be able to access your files from the web interface? Do you also think your emails are encrypted with your own key on the servers of your provider?
If you have CIA secrets to cover, its yours responsibility to encrypt them, not of a “random company” (with all respect to Dropbox) which then you can blame if half of the features are cut off.

Lazza
September 3, 2012

Are you referring to “sharing permissions”? Well, if you want to share a folder in read-only just use the “get link” feature.

Ivan
September 3, 2012

ottimo, fatta la doppia autenticazione senza problemi tramite sms al cellulare, operatore tiscali mobile, italy

Oneloop1984
September 3, 2012

 It’s not a random company’s responsability, but it’s always a nice feature to offer.

Regarding e-mails, well Gmail certainly doesn’t have encryption, but other e-mail services do encrypt your e-mails.

Hallroad Pkads
September 3, 2012

 I have just tested my (java based) Soft Token with the Dropbox Two-step verification. And since Dropbox is based on hallroad.pk  with the same parameters like Amazon MFA or Google 2-Step it also works with  et-OTP. See the description here.
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Funny Jokey
September 4, 2012

I was wondering if my dropbox application updates automatically ? or i need to download manually to use this extra security feature… Keep on rocking dropbox team

Lazza
September 4, 2012

 AFAIK it should update automatically.

Fahad Uddin
September 5, 2012

Its good that you added 2 layer verification but you know, the damaged has been done.. Good luck for next time.

Dario Alvarez
September 6, 2012

Is a new security policy being forced on users or something? I tried to login via the web interface today and I got a “your password has expired” message, demanding a reset.

Is this legit or you’re being massively hacked?

Thomas Vanhoutte
September 6, 2012

That’s security, thanks!

William
September 9, 2012
Jacob_g
September 9, 2012

There are so many other online backup options these days it’s amazing. http://bestonlinebackup.info has heaps of options..

Kristoffer Føns
September 9, 2012

Brilliant, Dropbox. I love your service! 

Patrick
September 11, 2012

 Do you mean you have the answer for a feature requested by so many people? You mean all this people are stupid?
Or may be you have not try to understand this request? The interest of DropBox is transparency for user. What’s the interest of your answer? The get link is a one shot shared folder. It is not a permanent shared folder that automaticly sync on all computer.

Lazza
September 11, 2012

“You mean all this people are stupid?”
Please, quote the exact sentence in the comment where you think I have written that.
“It is not a permanent shared folder that automaticly sync on all computer.”
It’s not synchronized but you can always see the content if you visit the web link. It’s not perfect but it works. And since Dropbox sharing features are mainly meant for collaboration, it seems reasonable that the behaviour of shared folders is RW. Not having a synchronized read only shared folder does not mean you can’t share a folder in read only mode. It’s just not synchronized.”What’s the interest of your answer?”Mmm… I don’t know, maybe to give a suggestion? But surely it’s not the same as your interest, i.e. being so rude.

Lazza
September 11, 2012

You can do that. You just need to create symlinks. I am sure because I’ve being doing it for 2 years. This works on Linux, Mac and any other standard (POSIX) compliant operating system. I really don’t know about Windows.

Lazza
September 11, 2012

The emergency backup code is to be used when you lose your phone, so in my opinion it seems a bit more impractical if it had to be sent by SMS.

Patrick
September 12, 2012

“Please, quote the exact sentence in the comment where you think I have written that.” “ Well, if you want to share a folder in read-only just use the “get link” feature.”
“just use”: meaning, it’s so easy to do. The way you write it looks like you give an easy solution to that request. You just forgot to put all the limits of your solution. You just forgot to explain that your solution is not answering the request.
Your second answer: “ And since Dropbox sharing features are mainly meant for collaboration, it seems reasonable that the behaviour of shared folders is RW.”
Collaboration work on two ways : RW and ReadOnly. The one way solution seems reasonable in your mind, but not in the mind of some thousand people who request the function.
“It’s just not synchronized” : Yes! Eventually, you understand. Or maybe not. I don’t know. Have you understood that your answer did not feat the request?

By the way, I’m not rude just to be rude. I’m rude because your first answer seems rude : no nuance, you have the answer and that’s all. You act as a fan (10 answers), excuse Dropbox for everything. Have you look at the request? More than 100 000 votes, request in the pipe for 2 years, no information from Dropbox. If it’s not possible, Dropbox just have to explain it.
Sometime, rude reaction comes because first one was not suitable.

Lazza
September 12, 2012

 «”just use”: meaning, it’s so easy to do.»
Using the *workaround* I suggested is actually easy to do. It’s not a perfect replacement, and I never written the contrary, but for some people it can be good enough while they wait for a better feature to be implemented.
«Have you understood that your answer did not feat the request?»
Do you understand the difference between “suggesting a workaround for some use cases” and “claiming to have the perfect solution for everybody”? If you think I tried to do the latter well, I’m sorry for you. If you read my comment again maybe you’ll get that my intention was the former.
«You act as a fan (10 answers)»
Do you mean the level of appreciation for a product depends on the number of comments? Well, I must admit that I read every comment on this post, and you know why? Because the Disqus system is designed to send them at the email addresses of everybody who is leaving even a single comment. So if I find a comment of people who seem to be asking for some advice, if I know there is something they can do about that, I write it. Of course until they ask “basic” things like “how can I sync a folder not inside the Dropbox one?” I can find some sort of answer (in this example, use symlinks). If I find a comment asking for a very complicated feature which Dropbox lacks (e.g. document editing as Google Drive), of course I can’t tell them there’s something similar to what they need. So I simply don’t answer. This is why you find more comments of mine of the “suggestion” kind rather than the “that’s right this feature is not in Dropbox, this product sucks” kind. I just don’t think I have time to complain every single minute for those features. And be sure there are some features I would like in Dropbox, as in Evernote or Google Drive, or anything, but I don’t shout for every missing part, especially because I use the free version.
Yes I like Dropbox, I don’t thing it’s dog poo, but I don’t think it’s perfect either. It has room for improvement, like every other thing on this planet. …Apart from Linux… just kidding! :D
«excuse Dropbox for everything»
Excuse them for what? Did they rape your daughter? That would be cruel and for sure I wouldn’t excuse them about this horrible crime. =.=
Really, I’m not excusing Dropbox (for what???) but because I realize they cannot implement every feature tomorrow, I try to suggest some alternatives to the readers, and if (as in the case of  the “different folders”) the ability is already there, I simply write it.
In any case if you believe that being rude with me because I answer some comments with suggestions is good, then do that and be happy. IMHO it’s unnecessary.

Dad
September 12, 2012

The problem with this two-step verification is that it requires me to give you my phone number (or install an app that let’s you scrape it behind my back).  I’m not giving you my cell phone number (and I bet many celebrities aren’t going to either).  You need to find another way to do this that doesn’t require giving you a cell phone number.

Rosalind Benavides
September 13, 2012

Its good that you added 2 layer verification but you know, the damaged has been done.. Good luck for next time.

Clotilde
September 13, 2012

I’m not giving you my cell phone number (and I bet many celebrities
aren’t going to either).  You need to find another way to do this that
doesn’t require giving you a cell phone number.

Jacob
September 13, 2012

Zaphod,

You’ve got a couple different options. You could use the authenticator app, available for both iOS and Android, or you can use a Google Voice number. Be wary though. Deleting a Google Voice phone number is… difficult.

Rosalind Benavides
September 13, 2012

my computer and walk about 100 metres from the house, rain or shine, in order to get a phone signal.

http://financeimmo.com/

Rosalind Benavides
September 14, 2012

Trust this computer” and you won’t need to re-enter a code again.

http://www.financeimmo.com/simulation_credit/rachat_de_credit.php

Bo Schaefer
September 15, 2012

Today we’d like to announce the launch of two-step verification, a
feature that will enhance the security of your Dropbox by requiring two
levels of authentication

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Lily Hen
September 18, 2012

Turning on two-step verification is simple: go to the new Security tab in your Dropbox account settings and enable two-step verification in the “Account sign in” section.

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Cherry Watson
September 19, 2012

My files are in a TrueCrypt archive, so they aren’t readily available – but an option to not autosync would be nice as well.

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harshita317
September 19, 2012

i really liked ur security…………….dainik bhasker

Patrick
September 19, 2012

“Excuse them for what? Did they rape your daughter? That would be cruel and for sure I wouldn’t excuse them about this horrible crime.”

Ok, you win the award of the most stupid answer. Better stop discussing with you.

Akram
September 19, 2012

I am trying to contact Dropbox help team from ages but im not getting any reply at all, I am having problem with sign in, its give me an ERROR !

ErrorSomething went wrong. Don’t worry, your files are still safe and the Dropboxers have been notified. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home.

PLZ ! If some one help me out i need to submit my Uni assignment as soon as possible.

Lazza
September 20, 2012

And you win the award for the best argumentum ad hominem ever made. This is added to the fact that you don’t recognize irony. Congrats. :D

Megha
September 20, 2012

I’ve tried setting it up, but it just won’t send me a verification code, despite several attempts…:(

Irfan Khan
September 21, 2012

I am also using Dropbox since so many times.

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Sonali Kulkarni
September 21, 2012

Dropbox provides better security than any other service providers.

http://www.techramayan.com

Imran Kureshi
September 21, 2012

I want to improve my account’s security, How to do it?

http://www.thasariya.com

maria albright
September 23, 2012

we discussed a number of steps we’re taking to add an extra layer of
security for Dropbox users. Today we’d like to announce the launch of
two-step verification, a feature that will enhance the security of your
Dropbox by requiring two levels of authentication:

http://www.blacklogic.com

Régis
September 24, 2012

There is a difference beteen a device and a telephone line, and even though most phone operators send a replacement SIM card in a couple of days, you are quite right.

Régis
September 24, 2012

Strangely enough, I also have this “invalid code”. Could there be a problem with timezones or daylight saving time? “Check the clock on your phone”: the time is updated from the mobile phone operator and is quite accurate (not to the second, but definitely to the minute)

KeePass
September 24, 2012

I do not know, I moved to the activation by SMS.

Thalia
September 24, 2012

Next step: authentication for two-year olds. My laptop and flashdrive had to do without, which left Dropbox with the only remaining backup of my thesis…

RyanBibu
September 25, 2012

please help!!! anyone knows more about file sharing? how to fix conflicts problem?

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September 26, 2012

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WoW
September 26, 2012

Are you having some sort of seizure?

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Long
September 28, 2012

Today we’d like to announce the launch of two-step verification, a
feature that will enhance the security of your Dropbox by requiring two
levels of authentication:

Maybelle Alderman
October 4, 2012

can come up with something more random – I am aware that it is not
military-grade protection should the phone get lost or stolen (they
still need the password) but I think it is way too obvious at the
moment.

Thomas Foxx
October 4, 2012

You can always encrypt it yourself with Boxcryptor or some other utility, but that would make the mobile app and the web interface nearly useless. Dropbox is designed to “just work”, and it does it far better than any other service I’ve seen. Building end-to-end encryption into it would throw that entire philosophy out the window, and only a small minority of users would even understand what it means, much less be able to use it. Dropbox’s security gaffes have been severe, but adding two-factor authentication is a major step forward. If they drop the ball again like they have in the past, feel free to be as bummed as you like–I may even stop using Dropbox if the security issues persist–but this blog post is good news, and this is a time to praise them for doing something right.

Andrew Wells Douglass
October 4, 2012

I disagree. Back in the day … I used a utility that encrypted files transparently whenever you saved to disk. I have no idea whether the encryption was all that robust, but the current method lets absolutely anyone peruse files exposed to the internet. Hell, even a ROT13 would be an improvement. With that product—and this was in the early days of the Macintosh—was nothing for the user to do or understand, directories worked normally, and performance was unimpaired.

I have a (unproven) suspicion that it’s actually law enforcement discouraging widespread encryption because of the obviously devastating effects on collecting evidence and generic Patriot Act-type snooping (I’m sympathetic on the first one).BTW by bummed I mean serious disappointment at seeing a great product scuttled by bad management. i would like anything “in the cloud” to be as secure as on my laptop.

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 ”I used a utility that encrypted files transparently whenever you saved to disk”
This is easily done. Just use Ubuntu and you’re done, BUT it’s totally different from encrypting stuff on the server. You would then need to implement a decryption method on the browser in order to still use the user interface. And of course this would require a second password.
“i would like anything “in the cloud” to be as secure as on my laptop”
It’s not as easy as it seems. There are quite obvious technical difficulties. Of course data on the Dropbox servers IS encrypted but not with your key. They have the key, you can’t decide it. This is as far as a web service can go without compromising functionality. The same applies for Google Drive and so on…

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October 4, 2012

I’m willing to forgo the browser-based feature … in fact I don’t happen to use it. Regardless I don’t think the lack of encryption is because it’s *impossible,* rather I don’t think Dropbox has chosen to do the work. Perhaps encryption could be file-by-file or simple client-side en/decryption tools distributed. Or Dropbox doesn’t want to do it, perhaps to mine files for data as Google does. I have no idea. BUT … the files at a minimum should not be browsable by ordinary Dropbox employees for obvious reasons.

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October 4, 2012

Then if you don’t need half of the features, I think you can use TrueCrypt or other open source encryption solution to securely store your information. In my opinion it’s a lot better to use an open solution which you can check instead of relying on Dropbox to provide “their” encryption software. And by the way *technically* almost every online service has staff who can see your data, it’s a matter of trust + law + privacy statement + coherence + uninterest that keeps them from doing that. Sorry for my bad english but I hope my comment makes a bit of sense. :P

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October 4, 2012

Good points. Thing is “trust + law + privacy statement + coherence + uninterest” are all defeated handily by “criminal.” There’s also the risk of law enforcement abusing access to charge users with copyright infringement and so on.

Compare https://spideroak.com

Anyway, this debate can go on and on; I’m mostly curious why encryption is not more broadly available, in the way https and other protocols are. This isn’t just paranoia about Big Brother—lack of security is a BIG problem for business. I sense Dropbox is being duplicitous here, a shame for an otherwise terrific service. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/dropbox-ftc/

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October 5, 2012

I agree, some criminal could crack every security measure took by Dropbox and read the data. But he could also violate your SpiderOak account by guessing/logging your password. No system is 100% safe.
“lack of security is a BIG problem for business”
I agree. But I think businesses should not “rely and hope” on somebody else for the security. They should put up their own security measures.

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October 5, 2012

“rely and hope” — well, we rely on experts all the time. Most business are not going to be competent at security and shouldn’t try, any more than I can judge whether an airplane is safe (beyond the obvious, like having two wings, an engine or two, etc.). You must trust someone, carefully. schneier.com has a lot to say on this.

100% safe isn’t the problem. The Dropbox issue was not some advanced crypto problem but someone absentmindedly leaving the door open by accident for anyone to wander through. Surely we can do better than THAT! I.e., make at least a feeble effort at rendering the files unreadable. I really don’t want to have to wonder what among my documents might lend itself to abuse (maybe my SSN is in there somewhere or whatever). Keep it simple.

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October 6, 2012

This sounds great but I can’t get into the Dropbox website to set it up !!!!
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It’s been like that for a couple of days but I had no problem accessing the site before (from the same device !)

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