It’s a lot to juggle—and definitely takes more people than a casual observer would see on any given shoot day. That’s why Rizvi prioritizes efficiency when it comes to getting her work done.
“There’s no way that I would have been able to direct the film and do the press outreach if things weren’t simplified,” she says, “if I wasn’t able to utilize tools like Dropbox to save so much time.”
Rizvi tells us what she’s learned from expanding her short into a feature-length documentary.
On capturing more than you need for your feature
If you’re making a short and think, Oh, I don’t need to shoot this, you probably do if you’re ever going to expand it. So just film everything: all the B-roll, all the events. I couldn’t be at Jeff’s graduation from law school, but we had someone go there and shoot it because we were going to need it at some point—it’s just too big of an event.
When we got to making the feature, we realized very quickly that we were very short on B-roll. Ninety minutes is a lot of video to fill, and you don’t realize how much B roll you truly need. So any time you’re mapping out your storyboards, know that you’re going to need endless B-roll, think about what B-roll would go with every person’s interview, and shoot that as you go.
We had to get through a good portion of our edit, stop, go back, and film more B-roll, and then bring it back in and start editing again. It’s great if you don’t have to do that so it doesn’t slow down your editing process.
On keeping it all organized
It’s huge. If you don’t do that, the editing process is going to be an absolute nightmare.
Within Dropbox, we label every shoot by the date and location. Within that, you have your B-roll, your A-roll. Audio, same thing. Then you make folders for your backup audio, your main audio. If you have multiple mics, there’s a different folder for every single mic. Then we send those off to the editors, PAs, audio engineers, and anyone else who needs them.
Naming those files is so critical. With the short it was easy, because it was only a few interviews, so we were like, “Oh, we’ll be able to find everything.” When we made the feature, we did 20 more interviews with eight other people. We made the mistake of not properly labeling the audio files. When we had to go find, let’s say, Jeff’s or Jeff’s mom’s interviews, it was all labeled by mic with nothing else, so we couldn’t search for anything quickly. We also were editing with Premiere Pro, and it wouldn’t sync up because all the audio files were named the same: It couldn’t recognize where to go to get those files.
So the organization with your file folders—and then the names of those files—is critical to the speed of your editing, and, if anything goes wrong, your ability to troubleshoot it.
On getting to the next project
I’m a type-A Virgo, total perfectionist: If I waited for Conviction to be perfect, it would have never seen the light of day.
I read a quote—I’m sure everyone’s heard it: “Perfectionism is the enemy of progress”—and it just struck a chord with me. I’m still a perfectionist for sure; to some degree, you have to be to put out quality work, right? Where I have to stop and have an internal dialog with myself is when it’s like, Is the experience for the viewer going to be really any different if I leave it as is? Or is that just me checking my box for like, "Oh no, it’s not perfect yet"?
What I tell myself now is, if I keep working on this scene, I won’t be able to tell the next person’s story. So you just have to cut it off and say, “No, this is finished. We’re moving on to the next scene. And if we watch the whole thing at the end, and something doesn’t seem right, we can always come back to it for a quick minute.”
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
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